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    I just found and read this 8 year old thread , back in the days when no-one seemed to 'thank' threads they liked .

    I just thought I'd bump it , as I found it interesting , if quite naive , reading . . . . . . .

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    Hi there,

    I wondered who res-erected this thread, so I guess i might as well comment.

    I set my price when I started privately August 2015 at $250.00 per hour. At that time I received a lot of pressure to lower my price, as well as criticism based on my size, age , and even the water pressure in my flat!!

    I've never had to lower that price and in fact, have a another service at $350.00 per hour which is very popular. My thinking ? When i worked at the parlour, That was the rate paid (for which I received $120.00 per hour) so I thought, well, that was the acceptable rate.

    So breakdown: $250.000 per hour

    GST component $32.625
    ACC Levies $ 5.76
    TAX $ 60.00

    Net before expenses of $151.615 per hour

    Expenses

    Power (Hot water, laundry for towels sheets) - $125.00 per month or $1,500.00 per annum
    Phone/internet - $160.00 per month or $1,920.00 per annum
    Advertising - approximately $8500.00 per annum'
    Photo shoots: $2,160.00 per annum
    Stock: Towels, linen, body oil personal items, wipes, body wash for clients, mouth wash for clients, tooth brush/paste for clients, - haven't calculated

    Clothing, stockings, shoes, lingerie, etc. gosh -- don''t want to calculate

    Toys & other accessories (toys are expensive guys! A good strap on harness will set you back about $80.00 +, and dildos range in price up to a few hundred each!)

    Pedicures/manicures/waxing/facials ----- say $2,400.00 per annum

    Rent for premises

    Touring Costs: Hotels, flights,travel costs --- geez -- this number will absolutely floor you!! Average $150.00 per night for hotel, flights etc, for me this came in substantially high due to the high amount of touring that i do. (Im always amazed when guys ask for a discount when your touring , doesn't happen often anymore, but if they considered the costs to the ladies, perhaps they would stop)


    any whatever else I forgot to mention.

    So as you can see, there are, just like any other business ---costs associated. (And as many of you know, I really dislike making this technical like this)


    A lot of escorts do report their earnings, and do pay tax -- so lets just dispel the argument that escorts don't pay tax right now.'


    I hope this helps flesh out this discussion a bit, and provides incentive for other ladies to perhaps re-evaluate what they are charging, in most cases probably too little.

    Shelby xxx
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shelby View Post
    Hi there,

    I wondered who res-erected this thread, so I guess i might as well comment.

    I set my price when I started privately August 2015 at $250.00 per hour. At that time I received a lot of pressure to lower my price, as well as criticism based on my size, age , and even the water pressure in my flat!!

    I've never had to lower that price and in fact, have a another service at $350.00 per hour which is very popular. My thinking ? When i worked at the parlour, That was the rate paid (for which I received $120.00 per hour) so I thought, well, that was the acceptable rate.

    So breakdown: $250.000 per hour

    GST component $32.625
    ACC Levies $ 5.76
    TAX $ 60.00

    Net before expenses of $151.615 per hour

    Expenses

    Power (Hot water, laundry for towels sheets) - $125.00 per month or $1,500.00 per annum
    Phone/internet - $160.00 per month or $1,920.00 per annum
    Advertising - approximately $8500.00 per annum'
    Photo shoots: $2,160.00 per annum
    Stock: Towels, linen, body oil personal items, wipes, body wash for clients, mouth wash for clients, tooth brush/paste for clients, - haven't calculated

    Clothing, stockings, shoes, lingerie, etc. gosh -- don''t want to calculate

    Toys & other accessories (toys are expensive guys! A good strap on harness will set you back about $80.00 +, and dildos range in price up to a few hundred each!)

    Pedicures/manicures/waxing/facials ----- say $2,400.00 per annum

    Rent for premises

    Touring Costs: Hotels, flights,travel costs --- geez -- this number will absolutely floor you!! Average $150.00 per night for hotel, flights etc, for me this came in substantially high due to the high amount of touring that i do. (Im always amazed when guys ask for a discount when your touring , doesn't happen often anymore, but if they considered the costs to the ladies, perhaps they would stop)


    any whatever else I forgot to mention.

    So as you can see, there are, just like any other business ---costs associated. (And as many of you know, I really dislike making this technical like this)


    A lot of escorts do report their earnings, and do pay tax -- so lets just dispel the argument that escorts don't pay tax right now.'


    I hope this helps flesh out this discussion a bit, and provides incentive for other ladies to perhaps re-evaluate what they are charging, in most cases probably too little.

    Shelby xxx
    Thanks Shelby always great to put things in persoective

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shelby View Post
    Hi there,

    I wondered who res-erected this thread, so I guess i might as well comment.

    I set my price when I started privately August 2015 at $250.00 per hour. At that time I received a lot of pressure to lower my price, as well as criticism based on my size, age , and even the water pressure in my flat!!

    I've never had to lower that price and in fact, have a another service at $350.00 per hour which is very popular. My thinking ? When i worked at the parlour, That was the rate paid (for which I received $120.00 per hour) so I thought, well, that was the acceptable rate.

    So breakdown: $250.000 per hour

    GST component $32.625
    ACC Levies $ 5.76
    TAX $ 60.00

    Net before expenses of $151.615 per hour

    Expenses

    Power (Hot water, laundry for towels sheets) - $125.00 per month or $1,500.00 per annum
    Phone/internet - $160.00 per month or $1,920.00 per annum
    Advertising - approximately $8500.00 per annum'
    Photo shoots: $2,160.00 per annum
    Stock: Towels, linen, body oil personal items, wipes, body wash for clients, mouth wash for clients, tooth brush/paste for clients, - haven't calculated

    Clothing, stockings, shoes, lingerie, etc. gosh -- don''t want to calculate

    Toys & other accessories (toys are expensive guys! A good strap on harness will set you back about $80.00 +, and dildos range in price up to a few hundred each!)

    Pedicures/manicures/waxing/facials ----- say $2,400.00 per annum

    Rent for premises

    Touring Costs: Hotels, flights,travel costs --- geez -- this number will absolutely floor you!! Average $150.00 per night for hotel, flights etc, for me this came in substantially high due to the high amount of touring that i do. (Im always amazed when guys ask for a discount when your touring , doesn't happen often anymore, but if they considered the costs to the ladies, perhaps they would stop)


    any whatever else I forgot to mention.

    So as you can see, there are, just like any other business ---costs associated. (And as many of you know, I really dislike making this technical like this)


    A lot of escorts do report their earnings, and do pay tax -- so lets just dispel the argument that escorts don't pay tax right now.'


    I hope this helps flesh out this discussion a bit, and provides incentive for other ladies to perhaps re-evaluate what they are charging, in most cases probably too little.

    Shelby xxx

    Shelby thanks for your post.
    I take it most of your "expenses" are tax deductible? If your are not claiming these you should? Or you need to get a better accountant???

    What a WG chargers is her business and hers alone. If a punter can not afford those prices then he needs to look else where.
    Do not "haggle" and why would a punter do that.DUMB!!!
    So a punter beats down a WG's price so he can see her (if it ever happened) the vibe will be shit to start with, he will probably only get 1/2 the service offered to a FULL paying punter and it's just a wankers way to go!!!

    Like all economics the market will decided, sellers - buyers, consumers - providers.
    I find high $200's per hour is my limit at present sometimes go to $300 but not much past that if at all.
    Overseas I have spent higher because "when in Rome do what the Romans do"
    Cheers

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    thanks for the post Shelby it is up to you what you charge

    I would not pay as a rule more than 200 but then I am spoilt

    because that is all I get charged and I go back to the same escort again and again

    love you all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodile View Post
    I take it most of your "expenses" are tax deductible? If your are not claiming these you should? Or you need to get a better accountant???
    Actually, most of our expences are not tax deductible and a good accountant would warn you against over-deducting (because it might attract an audit), as IRD views a lot of what's listed by Shelby as "everyday" expence which may not be associated specifically with our line of work.

    And if a girl works from where she lives, it makes it even harder, as estimating the percetage of what's "personal use" and what is "strictly business" use is very tricky indeed.

    I urge all WGs paying their taxes err on the side of caution when claiming deductions.
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    Yana,

    That's why I wrote
    "I take it most of your "expenses" are tax deductible"

    Meaning "WG expenses" not everyday living expenses.
    I am the same and so have to watch what I claim and what I can not claim being a contractor.

    The other problem is rental properties - you can claim "repairs" but not "improvements".
    Example: the carpet was totally shot the tenant was claiming her son was getting sick with all the dust and she was right. Replaced the carpet but could not claim the cost of the new carpet (improvement) but could claim depreciation of the carpet over the years.



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    Quote Originally Posted by YanaTheRussian View Post
    Actually, most of our expences are not tax deductible and a good accountant would warn you against over-deducting, as IRD views a lot of what's listed by Shelby as "everyday" expence which may not be associated specifically with our line of work.

    And if a girl works from where she lives, it makes it even harder, as estimating the percetage of what's "personal use" and what is "strictly business" use is very tricky indeed.

    I urge all WGs paying their taxes err on the side of caution when claiming deductions.
    I work in the tax field and can confirm this. I've seen a couple of comments on the boards that have given cause to raise an eyebrow.

    Funny because at one time an escort was the example used in relation to gym expenses and other items with a nexus to an escort'ss income but denied through case law or public policy grounds, as a way of cautioning actors against deducting their own fees.

    A lot of people skate by on the odds, chancing that the IRD likely won't come knocking because they're small fish. That's definitely been a fair calculated risk to take in the past for those whose ethics allow them to do so, but there are changes afoot for tax that could make this harder in the future.

    Deduct with caution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollingtonspree View Post
    ......SNIP.....
    Deduct with caution.
    With Yana's advice, these are good words of warning.

    At my work, we have just come through a very intense 3 month IRD audit.
    I'm pleased to say we got a clean bill of health at the end of it, but when you see how detailed their investigatons can be, it is definately prudent to err on the side of caution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilbert View Post
    With Yana's advice, these are good words of warning.

    At my work, we have just come through a very intense 3 month IRD audit.
    I'm pleased to say we got a clean bill of health at the end of it, but when you see how detailed their investigatons can be, it is definately prudent to err on the side of caution.
    Yes I think a lot of WG have probably seen some rather big cocks in their time?
    But having IRD up your arse with no lube would certainly be the biggest prick you have ever felt.
    As for us guys that don't do "pricks up our arse" it would probably be totally fucking painful!!!
    Death and taxes as they say

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